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Erik Haines's avatar

Hey Brad, thank you for this generous and careful response — and I'll admit the Adi Da reference was deliberate. I knew it would land in your orbit and I'm glad it did.

A couple of threads I'd love to pull on in conversation: 1) I was surprised you didn't reach for Wilber's own waking-up/growing-up/cleaning-up/showing-up framework, or the shadow question — the "Darth Vader move" — which I think are Wilber's best internal resources for addressing exactly the political failure cases I raised (Heidegger, Kyoto School). The Being/Becoming arc is clarifying, but it doesn't quite close the gap - I think.

More importantly: 2) my essay was less concerned with individual realization than with group showing-up and cleaning-up — integral political praxis at the collective level, addressed to the integral community itself. I had Roger Walsh's 2006 and 2009 JITP essays on the state of the integral enterprise in mind — the traps he identified there still feel very alive to me still. Habermas is the right interlocutor for that question precisely because it's a question about communicative structures in communities, not about the ontological status of nondual awareness, etc.

That said, I think the real conversation wants to happen off the page. If you're open to a call or Zoom, I'll message you directly.

Samuel JD Scorsone's avatar

I was just thinking about Ken Wilber the other day. I enjoyed his books, kind of reminded me of a more refined Alan Watts. His book Simple Feeling of Being is my fav.

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